St. John, the Beloved Desciple, has been Reincarnated… as a Comedian!

I have no clue what I was doing, save to say that I was browsing the internet, when a Google ad caught my eye. Now I’ve seen plenty of strange religious Google ads in my day, but this one stood out. It was a link claiming that John the apostle who rested his head on Christ during the last supper, the beloved desciple, author of several NT books, has been reincarnated… as a comedian… who performs in a Renaissance style swordfighting routine.

Is this one ofChrist’s apostles?

I couldn’t resist checking this one out. The site is called “John of Old, John of New.” The story it tells is really something. Could this actually be the reincarnation of one of Christ’s most prominent servants? In the site’s own words, John (yes ths is his real name) C. Davis tells his story:

Raised in Rehoboth Beach Delaware, John was always different from those around him, including his family. He excelled in areas of art – at age nineteen John was invited to a Renaissance Festival and was captivated by the experience, which led to a twenty-year career as a performer in his comedy / sword-fighting show, Hack and Slash. After the attacks of Sept.11, 2001, John has spent several months every year traveling abroad, entertaining the troops. To date he has perfomed in fifteen countries at over eighty bases.
In 1993 John began having some rather extraordinary experiences; each experience led him to the next until he met a psychic reader named Sharon Prince Wothke. Never having had a ‘reading’ before, John entered into it with some skepticism. Sharon’s face erupted into a smile and declared that he had “walked with Jesus” – the oddity was that John knew he had.

Since that initial reading a total of twelve other psychics have told John the same news – one even came up to him at a crowded convention, grabbed his arm and told him, “They’re telling me to tell you that you were John the Beloved.” After so many ‘psychics’ had told him of his past life John decided he needed more proof and sought out a past life regression therapist and had a regression. The experience was life-changing.

Not knowing much of the Bible, John recalled the day of meeting Jeshua (Jesus) for the first time. He experienced Jeshua’s love without fear and then was shown the seperateness we all experience. John also witnessed the whipping and crucifixion of Jeshua, later reading that John the Beloved was the only Apostle to actually witness these events.

But when John began having his own psychic experiences, witnessing healings, and seeing apparitions, he knew that he needed to tell his stories and share what he had learned.

That’s a really interesting story, but it raises a few questions. And if I could meet John, here’s what I’d ask:

1.) Somewhere in the epistles it is written “for God suffereth a man to live but once, and then there is judgement.” Giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming that this verse only means that reincarnation is an exception to the general rule of things, why were you reincarnated as opposed to any other historical figure?
2.) Why were you reincarnated here, and now?
3.) Have any of the other apostles been reincarnated? If not, will they?
4.) Why did you have to rely on psychics to tell you of your origin? Why didn’t God reveal it to you?
5.) Why haven’t you become very famous? The apostles in the first century quickly developed vast followings and performed miracles publicly, why haven’t you been so active?
6.) The Church is horribly divided. Since you were so close to Jesus, and to God, why don’t you give us answers to the divisive issues? How close are we to the End? What about the age of the earth and the nature of creation? How should we handle homosexuality? Who should we vote for?

I could probably think of more, but you get the idea. I don’t know what to make of this guy, but the again he doesn’t give much info for an evaluation to be based on. I think there’s a good chance he actually believes himself to be John reborn, but is he?

No, I don’t think so. I think the questions I’ve asked above show my reasons for doubting him. He just doesn’t fit the description of what I’d expect to see in a modern day apostle. For one, the whole reincarnation thing doesn’t exactly fit with the Bible well. Maybe the Bible doesn’t technically rule out reincarnation completely, but I think it’s doubtful that it happens. And for one apostle to be reincarnated without the others being so as well, seems odd.

Then there’s the whole, “he’s not doing anything the other apostles did” thing. Where are his big, public miracles? Why doesn’t he have a following or even a church? His life just doesn’t seem to jive with the Biblical account of the 12.

The clincher though, is of course his biography. It completely goes against the grain of the Bible’s account of all the apostles and prophets. For every one of them they gained their authority by divine revelation. God gives them a vision, or a dream or a sign or something! This guy gets vague messages from some occult loonies and that’s how he learns of his position?! That doesn’t seem kosher! And when he’s told that he “walked with Jesus” that could’ve meant anything! Just think of how many lives Jesus touched. He could have been one of the 5,000 that was fed by the fish and bread. How does he know he’s John?

He knows because of the most accurate way of learning about your distant spiritual past… hypnotic regression! Was that ironic enough for ya? C’mon! This guy hasn’t even tried to make his case for apostlehood sound realistic!

And what’s with the Jeshua nonsense? Yeshua, I can deal with. I’ve heard that despite speaking Aramaic that Christ’s contemporaries gave names in Hebrew. But, Hebrew has no letter ‘J,’ so calling Jesus “Jeshua” thus doesn’t make any sense. I would expect greater accuracy from one of the man’s contemporaries.

I’ve never been one of those Harry Potter hating, occultophobic type Christians, but, uh, isn’t consulting fortune tellers and mystical stuff like that against the Bible? What makes John think that anything they say at all would be true, let alone hold insight into God’s plan for him?

How does he justify this discrepency between his Holy Book and his actual beliefs? Does he even know about it? If he doesn’t know even basic aspects of his Bible, can any religious message he gives be trusted?

I hope, for his own sake that this guy actually thinks he’s John reincarnated. But what do I think? Is he really an apostle reborn? I doubt it. His story just doesn’t fit with the Bible or with common sense expectations of what an apostle would be like.

10 Responses to “St. John, the Beloved Desciple, has been Reincarnated… as a Comedian!”

  1. Sharon Prince Wothke Says:

    Dear Abbysal,

    These are all very good questions! And you argue your points very well. I can tell this subject is important to you.

    My book, John of Old, John of New-The Awakening of An Apostle will be coming out this fall. I believe it will answer most of your questions. I would be happy to send you a complimentary copy. Just give me your name and address.

    Keep searching and asking those hard questions. That is what we are here for!

    Sending love and blessings,

    Sharon

    P.S. I love Harry Potter! :)

  2. Anup Pandey Says:

    Dear Abbysal,

    You have judged a lot here. I have met John many times. I will answer some of the questions.

    First, he does and has done a lot of miraculous healings. I am one of those healed. He continues to heal, the stories are being compiled even as more stories happen, to be posted on his website.

    Second, you are assuming that he believes the Bible is entirely without error, in fact he warns against all that is in the bible, but does not deny that there are great things to learn from it. He is not going to make the mistakes of the Church and create yet another Church. His goal is to teach man the simplicity of Jeshua’s message.

    Third, other apostles are reincarnated at this very time and day. Paul is reincarnated in Portland as Nick, his books have been out for years and they tend to fix the past, tell the truth about Paul’s life and his recollection of why and where the church wen astray. Read “In God’s Truth”. Great reading and you will agree with every thing he says in that book. Nick and John recognized each other instantly when they met each other at one of Nick’s talks. Another apostle is John’s good friend, so I know 3 are here and acknowledge and respect each other, and come from different parts of the country. There may be more but these three have connected.
    One should not obsess with the occult, but its not evil to use the gifts to aid you now and then. John the beloved, I believe, is the one who preached against the use of occult, so he does now too, as he said to me that we do not need such agents and tools to our path to God, for the path to God is much simpler to need all that. His use of psychics and regression was only to affirm and inner knowing, not to conduct every future step of his life in fear and use the occult as a flash light for living every path of your life – this is what John the Apostle meant. To interpret such guidance and to make them extreme judgements and to accuse people of witchcraft and burn them at a stake is merely a process of power holding by the church. For who truely can tell the public that the church has lost its way – it is the people who connect to the other side – the mystic, the psyhics – and they therefore become the greatest threat to the power of the church. Deeming the devil’s agents and evil has worked very well to keep their spiritual contribution to humanity only to non Christians (heathens).

    John has through disciplined meditation himself seen his other past lives. It is not that after John the beloved, he has suddenly popped back up as John Davis. He has told, and tells them in his talks that he now conducts across the country, of several different lives that he recalls.

    There is so much to tell… and as Sharon offered (I have met Sharon too and she is fantastic)… the book will have a lot of answers. If you want, you can email me, or even call me – 512 3867676, I will be happy to tell you of my experiences with John and my instant healing.

    I am not even Christian.

    There is a lot of mystery out there, there is lot you do not know, there is a lot you can know, I hope, you will just open a tiny bit and be amazed. Miracles did not just happen 2000 yrs ago, and if you believe in Jesus then, why not believe in him being here now? And if Jesus here is here and now, then what is such a big deal about his apostles also being here and now? Its amazing only because it is unfamiliar to most. The earth being a sphere was too amazing for a generation that was taught that the earth was flat. No science or study proved to them that it was not flat any more, just that the world started believing in it, when an entire generation disappeared and new generation had unbiased look at both views and decided that spherical made sense based on facts. So, let yourself be shaken a little, but do not let the wall of your conditioning come between you and simplicity. Read more, research more, get familiar and then, it will seem not so shocking and dervent of mocking.

    love

    Anup

  3. Anup Pandey Says:

    More on other biblical figures reincarnated in present times:

    http://www.johnadams.net/cases/samples/St.Thomas/index.html

  4. Mrs. Markey Says:

    Abyssal,

    Judge not lest you be judged. Fortunately for me I have not yet met John. Although, I know how he laughs. As for him being John? Well to those that do not believe we cannot make them. If they turn their heads nigh to the signs. They will not know. I truly believe that if you took the time to find out about John out side of what is written about him. You might just change your mind. Now why would you have such a thought without first learning what the person is about? I certainly do not know who you are, but I can certainly see by your words that you could do with a healthy dose of comedy yourself. Lighten up dude we’re all god’s children. Did not Jesus say that which you do to the least of my brethren you do unto me.. So… Hmmmm. I guess if Jesus himself came back you’d be the first to try and stick your hands in his side.. Sounds like someone I read about before. Oh yeah. Thomas… The doubting one. But alas, to each his or her own. I will reserve judgment until I meet him… And if you grew up catholic you know why John had to have someone else tell him, and the fact that he fought it tooth and nail.. From what I gather… not only did he ask for proof, but he got it.

  5. Anup Pandey Says:

    And yes, other apostles are here too, two others have revealed themselves and they all know each other and ackowledge each other – Michael is Philip and Nick Bunick is Paul (Portland), Research them. You can read about them all in the book that has now come out from http://www.SharonPrince.net

  6. Abyssal Says:

    Michael and Paul weren’t in the twelve apostles…

  7. Sanaya Says:

    myspace.com/johnofnew
    http://www.johnofnew.com/index.htm

    He’s coming to Houston, Texas on the 16th this Jan. (2009). Along with sweet Sharon P. W. who wrote their story in “John of Old, John of New”. It is wonderful to have questions answered if you seek to know the truth and are ready. =D All you need is love. Think happy thoughts and don’t worry be happy. Oh and God does have a sense of humor, why shouldn’t we?

    Love & Light,
    ~*~Sanaya

  8. Sanaya Says:

    Remember … God was around before the Bible, man created church and such.

  9. Colleen Says:

    Phillip was in fact one of the 12 original apostles and Paul became an apostle and yes it was after the cruxifiction.
    I have met both Sharon and John…read the book and explore your inner guidance, strength, and empowerment, and recognize that there is love everywhere!!!! There is much to their work !!!!

  10. Colleen Says:

    that should read ” crucifixion”

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